Comments on: The Next Billionaires http://thehsus.com/views/2007/05/21/the-next-billionaires/ usual stuff: rants and thoughts mostly centered around transforming cities, movements, Gospel, Kingdom, mission and church Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:01:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Geoff http://thehsus.com/views/2007/05/21/the-next-billionaires/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Geoff Tue, 22 May 2007 20:18:37 +0000 http://thehsus.com/views/2007/05/21/the-next-billionaires/#comment-17 Mike, thank you for the response. I can't agree more. My sense is that the respect needs to move in both directions. We must recognize that God has uniquely called people to serve in their unique time and culture. To insist that one must do "it" a certain way, would be wrong, regardless of what group is doing the insisting. Furthermore, to attach a judgment of "irrelevance" or "rebellion" is not only short-sighted, but plays directly in the hands of Satan and his desire to divide us. We need to avoid this. I think respect can only come as we journey together and develop relationships of trust. Mike, thank you for the response. I can’t agree more. My sense is that the respect needs to move in both directions. We must recognize that God has uniquely called people to serve in their unique time and culture. To insist that one must do “it” a certain way, would be wrong, regardless of what group is doing the insisting.

Furthermore, to attach a judgment of “irrelevance” or “rebellion” is not only short-sighted, but plays directly in the hands of Satan and his desire to divide us. We need to avoid this.

I think respect can only come as we journey together and develop relationships of trust.

]]> By: mcarlisle http://thehsus.com/views/2007/05/21/the-next-billionaires/comment-page-1/#comment-16 mcarlisle Tue, 22 May 2007 16:28:06 +0000 http://thehsus.com/views/2007/05/21/the-next-billionaires/#comment-16 It is always good to bring fresh ideas, research, and technology to bring much needed change to the church. The church is rooted and grounded in traditions that do not easily give way to new ideas that impact the way church is done. Perhaps that is why new churches grow much faster than existing ones. If somehow, new leaders can emerge, show respect and honor those who have paid the price for previous era, and then start new expressions, not in "reaction" to the older but complementary to it. This seems to be the idea behind Proverbs... from Proverbs Chapter 1:2-5. 2To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding; 3To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity; 4To give subtlety to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion. 5A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: Clearly the older, experienced and seasoned leader needs to build healthy relationships with those who are ready to bring their ideas and intelligence to lead the church into the future. Hopefully, the young leader wants the same thing. It all boils down to respect. My hope is we can encourage the ongoing conversation between the bright young leaders and the seasoned experienced leaders with respect and courage to try new things. It is always good to bring fresh ideas, research, and technology to bring much needed change to the church. The church is rooted and grounded in traditions that do not easily give way to new ideas that impact the way church is done. Perhaps that is why new churches grow much faster than existing ones.

If somehow, new leaders can emerge, show respect and honor those who have paid the price for previous era, and then start new expressions, not in “reaction” to the older but complementary to it. This seems to be the idea behind Proverbs… from Proverbs Chapter 1:2-5.

2To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding; 3To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity; 4To give subtlety to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion. 5A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

Clearly the older, experienced and seasoned leader needs to build healthy relationships with those who are ready to bring their ideas and intelligence to lead the church into the future. Hopefully, the young leader wants the same thing. It all boils down to respect. My hope is we can encourage the ongoing conversation between the bright young leaders and the seasoned experienced leaders with respect and courage to try new things.

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